tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407131482004360149.post9022874036151400360..comments2023-06-15T05:15:36.758-07:00Comments on The ODonnell Clan: A Letter from HSLDAJimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09631597313028009696noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407131482004360149.post-63424595466725517092008-01-19T15:23:00.000-08:002008-01-19T15:23:00.000-08:00Thank you for posting this letter. I personally ...Thank you for posting this letter. I personally agree with Farris' heart in the content of his letter. I want to look into the "IBO" more. (...ugh...more time...) <BR/><BR/>As much as I'd like to support his "vision" for homeschooling, I CANNOT support Ron Paul against any other candidate, simply by his national security/foreign policy alone.<BR/><BR/>Signed, <BR/>Homeschooling mom and Veteranthreelilmnmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07230005922948196033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407131482004360149.post-15879875024955665492008-01-19T10:53:00.000-08:002008-01-19T10:53:00.000-08:00Brian is absolutely right. My main impression whe...Brian is absolutely right. My main impression when reading Farris's letter is that that he thinks Huckabee is electable. I see a lot of long time Republicans expressing this sort of loyalty to the party regardless of the persons principles and philosophy. Huckabee is trying to put a veiner on his image to soften his strongly liberal record: <A HREF="http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=8838" REL="nofollow"></A><BR/><BR/>He is also right about Ron Paul. Paul is a man of character who doesn't flop around what he supports and actually has political principles and ideals he follows: <A HREF="http://www.ronpaul2008.com/about/" REL="nofollow"></A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407131482004360149.post-20825052416882299022008-01-18T11:22:00.000-08:002008-01-18T11:22:00.000-08:00"Have I answered your questions?"You have the best..."Have I answered your questions?"<BR/><BR/>You have the best you can. I've logged both of the site you suggested I look at. Thanks for the info. I'll look into it.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09631597313028009696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407131482004360149.post-2168850000085136622008-01-18T11:04:00.000-08:002008-01-18T11:04:00.000-08:00I agree about the "electibility" issue and the sen...I agree about the "electibility" issue and the senate issue. That would likely be a non-issue if ALL the candidates were senators. All the democrat candidates are senators. Some of Huckabee's surge can also be attributed to the efforts of homeschoolers in Iowa who were emboldened by the Farris endorsement. If Farris had not picked Huckabee so early would the homeschoolers have been as willing to jump on the bandwagon of a Governor who restricted homeschooling in Arkansas? My guess is no. Especially considering that as news of Huckbee's record has gotten greater srutiny homeschoolers have moved away from Huckabee. In Michigan I read several early stories where Huckabee expected to duplicate Iowa using "grassroots" homeschool supporters. That never materialized and Huckabee got a little over 15% of the vote. So if electability was Farris's concern it appears that Huckabee can't go beyond his base and that in fact, his base is actually quite soft.Spunkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08068332867549188303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407131482004360149.post-50589645502107806952008-01-18T10:57:00.000-08:002008-01-18T10:57:00.000-08:00"How do you know Ned Ryun is not a disgruntled ex-..."How do you know Ned Ryun is not a disgruntled ex-employee? Why wasn't he informed and what was going on at the time?"<BR/><BR/>You'll have to ask those questions to Ned Ryun. He provided some information on his blog. Ned Ryun has a very strong reputation both politically and among homeschoolers, the fact that he boldly made the statement saying he was not informed and Farris who also has a lot of credibility has not offered a substantive reply, tells me there must be some merit to the claims of Ryun. Further, Ryun may be a disgruntled employee, but eve if that is true, it doesn't negate the truth of what he says. It just speaks about his personal motives for sharing it. <BR/><BR/>"How do you know the the HSLDA didn't know about the IBO? How much research have you done on this, and if you have answers to these questions, where can I go to read up on this?"<BR/><BR/>My first realization that HSLDA didn't know a lot about what I was writing on my blog regarding national and international standards came when then HSLDA attorney left a comment on my blog calling me a "sucker" for falling for the New York Times story on national standards. Here's the link<BR/><BR/>http://spunkyhomeschool.blogspot.com/2006/02/woe-to-you.html<BR/><BR/>I didn't take it personally but I knew my information was good. We exchanged in a bit of banter in emails and he finally acknoweldged that my concerns were legitimate. Somerville is no longer an HSLDA attorney and now operates his family's Tapestry of Grace homeschool curriculum business. I use his curriculum and we are friends. So it ended well. <BR/><BR/>More recently, I talked to HSLDA about Huckabee and the representative talked about the UN. When I mentioned the IBO curriclum it was obvious he didn't know what I was talking about. This person was someone in charge of federal legislation. If he didn't know about IBO did anyone at HSLDA? I asked him and he said it really hadn't come up much in their meetings. I quickly gave him a run down on the IBO and their goals in education. He was interested and taking notes. <BR/><BR/>I'm not sure what blanks you want me to fill in, about IBO? You can go to EdWatch or Eagle Forum and find out credible information there. You can also go to the IBO website and read the PDF's on their intentions. That's what I've done but it is time consuming. <BR/><BR/>Have I answered your questions?Spunkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08068332867549188303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407131482004360149.post-46482529765433418392008-01-18T10:56:00.000-08:002008-01-18T10:56:00.000-08:00With regard to Mike Farris' strong support of Gov....With regard to Mike Farris' strong support of Gov. Huckabee's stand against UN influence...how would Mr. Farris respond to Gov. Huckabee's association and cousel from the CFR. Gov. Huckabee's primary foreign policy advisor is Richard Haas, President of the CFR, who is strongly in favor of global community influence over the affairs of nations. The Convention on the Rights of the Child is just one small attempt to place the US under global community control.Brian Gatleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06658819809907186476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407131482004360149.post-85400802767759063442008-01-18T10:42:00.000-08:002008-01-18T10:42:00.000-08:00I find it unfortunate that Mike Farris boils down ...I find it unfortunate that Mike Farris boils down his selection to a single issue...electability. He is willing to compromise all of the other liberal perspectives Mike Huckabee has (the role of government in education; monetary policy; etc) and champion Gov. Huckabee's ability to debate and his potential electability.<BR/><BR/>Ron Paul is another candidate who embodies all the same views as expressed by Mr. Farris, however, this candidate has been deemed "unelectable". Also, I will grant that Dr. Paul is not as polished as Gov. Huckabee in political debates, but this only enhances and showcases his integrity.<BR/><BR/>The ability to communicate and debate effectively is no doubt a desirable trait, but unfortunately I would not contend that it trumps all other values, principles and philosophies a candidate holds.<BR/><BR/>As the country continues down the slope of bankruptcy, all the political rhetoric, debate and communication is not going to save us from the influence and legal plunder by the UN.Brian Gatleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06658819809907186476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407131482004360149.post-47873442060674290452008-01-18T10:35:00.000-08:002008-01-18T10:35:00.000-08:00My first questions still stand though. Have you f...My first questions still stand though. Have you found anything online that can answer these specific questions? I do trust Farris. He has a proven record. Why should I take Ryun's word over his? Who has more to loose? How do you know Farris didn't know anything about the IBO? You seem so sure. I love your blog Spunky, but you're simply not in a position to be as well informed as Farris. I have to make sure you are not making "erroneous assumptions about the character of others".Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09631597313028009696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407131482004360149.post-27565384026655770442008-01-18T10:09:00.000-08:002008-01-18T10:09:00.000-08:00One other note about Farris's reasons for supporti...One other note about Farris's reasons for supporting Huckabee. He gives his reason, but gives no supporting evidence to support that this is true of Huckabee. This tells me he's relying on our trust of Farris to determine whether Huckabee is all of these things and does nothing to refute some of the credible evidence that contradicts these claims. For example, Huckabee has said he ALWAYS supported a life amendment to the Constitution, that is not true. Huckabee said he had a theology degree, that is not true. Farris doesn't talk about the fact that Huckabee wants to "assist" homeschoolers as way of saying thank-you for homeschooling. Farris doesn't address the appointment of Dr. Ray Simon to the Dept. of Ed. who obviously has concerns about the number of parents homeschooling. <BR/><BR/>I think Farris is a wonderful Christian man, but like all men we are able to make erroneous assumptions about the character of others. Unless Farris provides substantive evidence to support his assertions and a willingness to address the legitimate concerns, I personally don't put a whole lot in this follow-up letter.Spunkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08068332867549188303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407131482004360149.post-61671425838964015542008-01-18T10:04:00.000-08:002008-01-18T10:04:00.000-08:00How do you know Ned Ryun is not a disgruntled ex-e...How do you know Ned Ryun is not a disgruntled ex-employee? Why wasn't he informed and what was going on at the time? How do you know the the HSLDA didn't know about the IBO? How much research have you done on this, and if you have answers to these questions, where can I go to read up on this? All of these questions need to be answered, but I'm coming up short when I try to fill in the blanks; and I'm just about out of time. If you have anything to add further support to your argument, please let me know.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09631597313028009696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407131482004360149.post-27523146663309014232008-01-18T09:01:00.000-08:002008-01-18T09:01:00.000-08:00"What I'm struggling with is whether I should foll..."What I'm struggling with is whether I should follow the advice of Mike Farris, a man that teaches constitutional law and is involved daily with Washington concerning Home School Issues, or a mom in Michigan that can dig through the news and separate the meat from the bones. Both share my convictions, and both have proven valuable resources over time."<BR/><BR/>There is also the opinion of Ned Ryun who was the director of HSLDA-PAC at the time of the endorsement and not told about it until after the fact. Why would HSLDA-PAC make an endorsment without consulting its own director? (links on my blog) Keep in mind Ned Ryun's credentials as well. He served in the Bush (43) adminstration and started Generation Joshua. He has confirmed much of my research and and has now since left HSLDA offer concerns with their direction and this endorsement. So there are lots of people, lots of opinions, and lots of factors. <BR/><BR/>I also found it ironic that HSLDA didn't even know about the IBO/UN establishing roots in our nation's schools including Arkansas under Huckabee. Farris is strongly opposed to the UN Rights of the Child, but this organization is already in place and eroding our national citizenship in place of global citizenship. So while the UN Rights of Child is of concern is HSLDA ignoring the real "elephant" in education?Spunkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08068332867549188303noreply@blogger.com